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    Quote Originally Posted by pstudio View Post
    You make some valid points that need to be considered if we were to hold an AI challenge. But do you have an overall point I'm missing? It's not clear to me if you think the AI challenge is a bad suggestion or if you're simple pointing out things that must be considered.
    Only points to be considered, my overall theme is that it would be difficult to judge different examples of AI against each other due to the large number of disciplines involved.

    Here's my idea for a compo :

    take a simple working pascal game with available source.

    People submit their own modifed/extended version of the game.

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    Would make for a tight compo with a nice even playing field.

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    A text adventure compo would be good too, just to see the range of ideas
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    What I'm saying is that while AI challenge would be nice for some of us it won't be for others. Since making of even easy AI requires good knowlege of programing and understanding how computers are processing information it would be quite hard for a newbie programers to do anything useful.
    You need to understand something. The best way for us as comunity to atract new members is to organize this kind of challenges so that everyone has atleast a decent chance of sucsseding.
    I myself have now been learning of pascal programing for about 10 years and I still have quite a lot of problems designing AI for one of my games (making proper decision to chose which goods to buy and where to sell them, deciding how planetary colonies eveolve, etc).

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    I am with @pstudio here. I even suggested the same idea in the other thread. The game really does not have to be that complicated. I remember such contest in the 8 bit Atari times.
    I think the biggest problem is that someone must have to prepare the core mechanism. We could do it all togheter, we could host this project on some site and commit changes there.
    Last edited by wodzu; 06-01-2013 at 09:29 AM. Reason: Corrections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wodzu View Post
    We could do it all togheter, we could host this project on some site and commit changes there.
    That is very easy with Google docs today. People can write the same file at the same time, and that's huge benefit over clumsy to setup SVN and similar. You don't need to start a real project page for it either, but share 1 folder for more people with edit rights.

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    Well the AI bot ideas is something to consider for a future event I guess. Of course if someone wanted to co-ordinate, run and organize a separate PGD event such as an AI competition with it's own "arena" platform to run it on that could be something that could be discussed. Why not create a separate thread to see what level of interest there is? The community could support more than 1 type of event if there is enough people willing to participate.

    So for a "game jam" style of challenge for the next PGD Challenge event, show of hands who would be in for that? And when is a good time?
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    I agree that the AI idea would be better pushed off to an other time, if we want a game challenge in the near future.If we're talking true game jam that takes place over a weekend then I'm definitely up for it.
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    I have an idea about a separate contest we could do on pgd. some of you may have heard of igdc.ru, it's a fairly successful russian game development competition website and there is always at least one contest every month. what I could do is translate and post the next igdc competition here. when it's finished we could compare the results of both websites and if anyone makes an entry here they could participate in the voting process. how does that sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILL View Post
    So for a "game jam" style of challenge for the next PGD Challenge event, show of hands who would be in for that? And when is a good time?
    My hand is up too!
    Mind you, it looks like I have gotten a job (barring physio tests today, medical tests tomorrow) that I'm starting training for on Monday 14th, so we'll see!!

    cheers,
    Paul

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    Best of luck in getting your job.

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