View Poll Results: What bare essentials would you keep in a Light Edition of Delphi to make it Low Cost?

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  • Compiler / Linker

    44 97.78%
  • Code Editor (IDE)

    41 91.11%
  • Visual Component Library (VCL)

    28 62.22%
  • Object Model (non-VCL)

    27 60.00%
  • Documentation

    24 53.33%
  • Form Designer (RAD)

    27 60.00%
  • Debugging Tools

    41 91.11%
  • Database Components & Libraries

    4 8.89%
  • Reports, Charts & Specialty Visual Components

    2 4.44%
  • Web and Internet Communication Components

    5 11.11%
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    Hmm... You're not plotting a deal with them are you? Like a special Pascal Gamer Delphi (Excuse the Pun [PGD]) or PGDD-SE (Pascal Game Development/Developpers' Delphi Special Edition)??

    It would be interesting if we could...
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    lol No nothing all that secretive behind the scenes. But this information and your ideas are useful in helping them to decide what they would need or not need in a version that they could sell to us at a price that we don't have to sell our vital organs on eBay to afford.

    Though a Game Developer's Edition would be super cool. Pre-bundled SDL, OpenGL and DirectX headers, etc...
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    Everything but the last 3.

    edit: Turbo versions were good (but not great), delphi need them back!
    Last edited by arthurprs; 18-11-2010 at 01:14 AM.
    From brazil (:

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  4. #4
    There actually is a pretty good light version already here which I used for a while:

    ---link removed---

    Its based on the latest turbo delphi and has a large number of fixes and speedups wrapped in a small 80 mb package. Not sure if this is legal though.
    Last edited by WILL; 19-11-2010 at 10:30 PM. Reason: Link removed so as not to support piracy...

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    I am afraid the only legal versions are the one you need register at the embarcadero site to enable them.
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    Question

    I wasn't expecting pirated software to come out of this poll, but hey there we are I guess.

    Can anyone, who has a full copy of the current Delphi, tell us what sorts of components could be stripped away should Embarcadero decide to include the RAD portion of the lighter Delphi? I think this information would be highly useful as well.
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  7. #7
    Ok things that can be left out of delphi 2009.
    - Rave Reports
    - Lite version of install shield application / installaware
    - Vcl for the web (aka all iw controlls) / websnap / internet express
    - Ribbon controls
    - Teechart Std.
    - icon collections
    - Interbase components
    - dbGO (dao / msaccess)
    - Indy components (but i do want to be able add indy components from the latest source version)
    - Internet components (see Indy remark)
    - BDE ( who is still using it? )
    - Win3.1 components ( who is still using it? )
    - Version Control
    - Data Explorer
    - Delphi Class Explorer
    - c++ builder
    - delphi prism
    - rad studio command prompt
    - remote debugger
    - doc o matic express version

    Things that should stay
    - Data Controls
    - Data Access
    - Dialogs
    - System
    - Win32
    - Additional
    - Standard
    - Webservices
    - Debugging


    Things i am in doubt on:
    - Allow to install componts from source / use packages (my only need is sqlite/indy components)
    - dbExpress as i do want to be able to add an sqlite database in an easy way. (support for backfish sql / interbase and datasnap may be dropped) ( or but better i want to use an sqlite database with the data access components)
    - Refactoring ( i use it often, but with care i can do without it)
    - SVN support that suposedly is added in delphi xe (would be nice, but we have lived without it)
    - Offline help / documentation
    - source of supplied components

    Ok shoot on it :-)

    Also i am curious what do the free ms ide tools bring?
    Last edited by noeska; 24-11-2010 at 07:04 PM.
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