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cronodragon
18-07-2007, 11:00 PM
What do you think about this?

http://www.notasobreras.org/info-Borland_Delphi_2005_Architect_Edition.html

Is this legal? :S

billy1380
18-07-2007, 11:06 PM
Incredibly cheep, but it looks like none of this software is actually the latest version...

I think maybe that is why it is so cheep... :shock:

cronodragon
18-07-2007, 11:17 PM
Yes, I can't believe it's that cheap. It says Borland Delphi 2005 Architect Edition, I think that's the latest version.

arthurprs
18-07-2007, 11:28 PM
Yes, I can't believe it's that cheap. It says Borland Delphi 2005 Architect Edition, I think that's the latest version.

no exist BDS2006 and Delphi2007 and C++Builder2007

Legolas
19-07-2007, 12:23 AM
Uhm... I'm a bit suspicious...

And $69.95 for a burned cd isnt so cheap, IMHO :lol:

Firlefanz
19-07-2007, 09:33 AM
No way this is not legal!

pstudio
19-07-2007, 12:08 PM
He he, You can buy Win98SE for $25.95. I wonder who would buy that? The site surely doesn't look legal. Perhaps you should notify CodeGear about this site (or some other authority). I'm sure they're not to happy about someone claiming that they can sell their software for such an insane price.

Robert Kosek
19-07-2007, 12:15 PM
Just to explain things a bit...

There is a 3/4ths (75%) chance of this being "pirateware." The financial chief of my company, a Silicon Valley startup, even fell for it when he tried to find Norton Ghost.

Contact Borland/CodeGear to find out if it is legal. My bet is that it is pirateware. And I'd put as much as $40 on that bet; I don't gamble.

WILL
19-07-2007, 02:14 PM
If they had a bunch of boxed copies it would not be unlikely that they wanted to 'dump' them and make room for more inventory. The company that I work for does this all the time. A very low price doesn't make it illegal, it just means that they are willing to sell at a loss for whatever reason.

The fact that it's an old copy of Delphi 2005 Architect makes sense. There have been 2+ versions released since. Try to buy a copy of this or Delphi 7 somewhere else, see what you find. But the fact that they are selling downloadable copies... that does stink.

If it was a boxed copy that they are selling then I'd concur that this more than legit. However download sales or the very obvious burned copy would no doubt be illegal as only Borland/CodeGear would be legally entitled to sell their software in this manner, unless they were given some sort of authorized status. But then they'd be endorsed by CodeGear wouldn't they? :)

Robert Kosek
19-07-2007, 02:27 PM
Just a warning WILL, but ours wasn't a "digital download." Digital downloads that don't come from a valid distributor listed on the creator's site are obviously fake. But a "reseller" might lie about boxed copies and send you a sleeve with an obviously burned CD and a serial number. Pirateware.

If it is discount software suspect it instantly.

WILL
19-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Well once a boxed product leaves the direct distributor's warehouse, it gets harder to track the more time and hands it travels. Something as old as Delphi 2005, unless sold by one of the direct distributors or a well established retail company would be very hard to trace back to Borland.

You'd really only find out once you got the product shipped to you. Mind you, that is a big risk. But so is buying online most of the time. :)

If you can't verify it then I'd conclude that it's too high risk as well and stay away. But in this case, report their asses. :P

jdarling
19-07-2007, 06:18 PM
I'm going to say illegal:

Domain ID:D104205193-LROR
Domain Name:NOTASOBRERAS.ORG
Created On:07-Apr-2004 23:23:57 UTC
Last Updated On:14-Jun-2007 13:20:11 UTC
Expiration Date:07-Apr-2008 23:23:57 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Wild West Domains, Inc. (R120-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:GODA-033364979
Registrant Name:Jimmy List
Registrant Street1:Lenin 10 128
Registrant City:Kazan
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:420043
Registrant Country:RU
Registrant Phone:+7.9046613930
Registrant Email:prj2005@hotmail.com
Admin ID:GODA-233364979
Admin Name:Jimmy List
Admin Street1:Lenin 10 128
Admin City:Kazan
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code:420043
Admin Country:RU
Admin Phone:+7.9046613930
Admin Email:prj2005@hotmail.com
Tech ID:GODA-133364979
Tech Name:Jimmy List
Tech Street1:Lenin 10 128
Tech City:Kazan
Tech Postal Code:420043
Tech Country:RU
Tech Phone:+7.9046613930
Tech Email:prj2005@hotmail.com
Name Server:NS1.PARK-WEB.RU
Name Server:NS2.PARK-WEB.RU

Any site with that much snaked information can't be good.

Now consider thats its advertising OEM versions. I hate to tell you, but unless your an authorized retailer you can't sell an OEM version as OEM is only for distribution with a PC (I'm talking the MS products). What I can tell you is that this person isn't a legit MS one, isn't distributing to know retailers, isn't distributing systems with the product on it. Thus the entire MS side of there site is illegal, and reported.

cronodragon
19-07-2007, 06:40 PM
Those are good reasons to think it's ilegal... and I would never give credit card info to those people.

WILL
19-07-2007, 07:11 PM
Another thing I just thought about. If it was a commercial company they wouldn't be able to use .org. :P

Firlefanz
20-07-2007, 04:35 PM
Like I said of course it is illegal :roll: