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    Newton physics and faces...

    Hi all,

    Yet another question :lol:

    Iv choosen to use the Newton dynamics library for collision and physics, how ever i have no idea on how to implement this in to my world structure, i have looked around on the net but they either show how to use it with complete models or with predefined objects.

    My world structure mostly consists of faces of course, 2 types i have a simple face, or a wall which consist of 6 faces in a cube shape, and i would like to assign each of these in to newton unless otherwise stated. I looked at some sources but they use the position value, which is fine if i use my simple face class but for my wall class it doesnt have a position for each of the faces.

    I was thinking about doing it as the world being a huge model, but i will get problems with moving platforms, doors, and faces i dont want included in the collision detection?!

    Secondly how can i go about using newton for stairs and other general actor actions?

    Any help will be greatly appreciated thanx
    M109uk
    <br />--------------------------------------------------------
    <br />www.pulse-soft.oneuk.com

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    Newton physics and faces...

    for the level, terrain etc you can use a tree collision. but all moving parts of the world must not be included (tree collisions are static)

    for other objects, you could use a convex hull

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    Newton physics and faces...

    Quote Originally Posted by tux
    for the level, terrain etc you can use a tree collision. but all moving parts of the world must not be included (tree collisions are static)

    for other objects, you could use a convex hull
    Hey tux, thanx for the reply,

    Ok i have built a function to generate the worlds collision tree from all the faces, a question before i use this:

    For a face with 3 points :-
    [pascal]
    var
    vertex: Array [0..2] Of TVertex3f;
    begin
    vertex[0] := Face.vertex[0];
    vertex[1] := Face.vertex[1];
    vertex[2] := Face.vertex[2];
    NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace(nCollisionTree, 3, @vertex[0], SizeOf(TVertex3f), 1);
    end;
    [/pascal]

    But my face's contain 4 points, and have written it like :-
    [pascal]
    var
    vertex: Array [0..3] Of TVertex3f;
    begin
    vertex[0] := Face.vertex[0];
    vertex[1] := Face.vertex[1];
    vertex[2] := Face.vertex[2];
    vertex[3] := Face.vertex[3];
    NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace(nCollisionTree, 4, @vertex[0], SizeOf(TVertex3f), 1);
    end;
    [/pascal]

    Is this the way to do this?


    How do i use the convex hull procedure?

    I have an actor mesh which is animated via a skeleton, how will i implement this in, i dont really want to use the sphere because the actors can be of all sorts of shapes and sizes?!

    Thanx for your patients
    M109uk
    <br />--------------------------------------------------------
    <br />www.pulse-soft.oneuk.com

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    Newton physics and faces...

    from my testing app

    [pascal] V[0] := V3(-150, -150, 1.0);
    V[1] := V3( 150, -150, 1.0);
    V[2] := V3( 150, 150, 1.0);
    NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace(Collider, 3, @V, SizeOf(TVector3f), 1);

    V[0] := V3( 150, 150, 1.0);
    V[1] := V3(-150, 150, 1.0);
    V[2] := V3(-150, -150, 1.0);
    NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace(Collider, 3, @V, SizeOf(TVector3f), 1);[/pascal]

    you must have at least 2 faces in a collision tree.

    is the actor mesh a ragdoll? in the next big release of newton there will be a ragdoll animation system

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    Newton physics and faces...

    Yeah i have several faces, there inside a loop and a function is called to add a found face to the collision tree, e.g.
    [pascal]
    procedure AddFaceToCollisionTree(const Face: TFace);
    var
    vertex: Array [0..3] Of TVertex3f;
    i: Integer;
    begin
    For i := 0 To 3 Do
    vertex[i] := Face.Vertices[i];
    NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace(nCollisionTree, 4, @vertex, SizeOf(TVertex3f), 1);
    end;

    procedure AddWorldToCollisionTree;

    procedure CheckItem(WorldObj: TxnWorldObject);
    var
    i: Integer;
    begin
    If WorldObj is {Face object} Then
    AddFaceToCollisionTree({Face Object}.Face);
    If WorldObj is {Wall object} Then
    For i := 0 To 5 Do AddFaceToCollisionTree({Wall object}.Faces[i]);
    If WorldObj is {Polygon object} Then
    For i := 0 To {Polygon object}.Children.Count-1 Do
    CheckItem({Polygon object}.Children[i]);
    If WorldObj is {Group object} Then
    For i := 0 To {Group object}.Children.Count-1 Do
    CheckItem({Group object}.Children[i]);
    end;

    var
    i: Integer;
    min,max: TVertex3f;
    Matrix: TMatrix;
    begin
    nCollisionTree := NewtonCreateTreeCollision(nWorld, Nil);
    NewtonTreeCollisionBeginBuild(nCollisionTree);

    For i := 0 To World.Objects.Count-1 Do CheckItem(World.Objects[i]);

    NewtonTreeCollisionEndBuild(nCollisionTree, 0);

    StaticnWorld := NewtonCreateBody(nWorld, nCollisionTree);
    SetIdentity(Matrix);
    NewtonBodySetMatrix(staticnWorld, @Matrix[0,0]);
    NewtonCollisionCalculateAABB(nCollisionTree, @Matrix[0,0], @min[0], @max[0]);
    NewtonSetWorldSize(nWorld, @min[0], @max[0]);
    end;
    [/pascal]
    From most examples and sources i have seen the following function:
    [pascal]
    NewtonTreeCollisionAddFace(nCollisionTree, 3, @vertex, SizeOf(TVertex3f), 1);
    [/pascal]
    uses a face that consists of 3 vertices, and vertex would be an array [0..2] of TVertex3f how ever i want to pass 4 vertices instead...

    Quote Originally Posted by tux
    is the actor mesh a ragdoll? in the next big release of newton there will be a ragdoll animation system
    Urm, i dont reall need any moving joints on it controlled via Newton. The only movments i need would be from the skeleton (walking, etc).

    What advantages would there be for using it as a ragdoll and what kinda modifications would i need to do to my actor and its skeleton??

    How ever i want to have a vehicle mesh with collision detection with each of the body parts, e.g the bumpers, doors, etc and when a damage level is reached the part falls off, would the ragdoll be usefull for this?
    M109uk
    <br />--------------------------------------------------------
    <br />www.pulse-soft.oneuk.com

  6. #6

    Newton physics and faces...

    i cant really see anything wrong with the code. try asking at the newton forums

    http://www.newtongamedynamics.com

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