Final3D SDL Engine 2007

[andygfx]

It's true. I'm back, i have one unpublished 3D game engine under Win32 (with a lot of problems under Vista x64) I go ( again ) rewrite it but now with JEDI-SDL. Because I have not experincies with SDL ...

My questions are:

1) dglOpenGL or JEDI-SDL OpenGL units
2) class TString exist in SDL?
3) DXInput or SDL Input
4) DevIL lib or SDL_image
5) ODE or Newton (actualy i used Newton)
6) GLSL or Cg

[technomage]

Hi

Welcome back

in answer to your questions, I would say

1) JEDI-SDL units - if you are using SDL these units have been modifed to work with SDL. They also support Opengl 2.0 (tested under windows and linux) I think the dlgOpengl units only support Opengl 1.5
2) TString exists in both Delphi and Free Pascal , so you can use TStrings OK.
3) SDL has it's own input system which under the hood under windows probably used dXInput, so I would stick with that. JEDI-SDL comes with an excellent input manager already SDLInput.pas
4) SDL_Image is good, but it depends on what image formats you want to support, I use SDL_Image in my engines.
5) I would abstract your physics interface in such a way that it doesn't matter, but newton has more support.
6) GLSL is supported by ATI and Nvidia so I would stick with that. I'm not sure if ATI supports Cg.

Hope this helps

I look foward to seeing you new engine is action, A3Dngine was great. BTW the SDL conversion of that engine is still available in the jedi-sdl cvs. So it you want to have a look at how I converted stuff to work with SDL feel free

Dean

[andygfx]

Thx. OK i look on A3D conversion to SDL. Final3D 2006 isn't A3D - F3D is more next-gen engine .

[andygfx]

So here is ZERO release:

http://final3d.intelligentdevelopmen...inal3D_0.0.zip

If you have any comments about conception, write me.

P.S: Final3D homepage comming latter ... now i must study SDL )

[andygfx]

Final3D® web page is here:

http://final3D.intelligentdevelopment.sk

... under construction ...

[andygfx]

Final3D® SDL Engine ver 0.08.

Actual status of porting to SDL:

- WinXP x86/ Vista x64 / Linux (not tested)
- OpenGL 2.0
- SDL lib
- pascal language
- Viewport class
- HUD class
- Texture Factory class (currently is used DevIL lib)
- Font class
- Font Manager class (accept Nitrogen Font Studio 4 file - tga/composit)
- Image Manager class (will be used for GUI)
- SDL Input control class
- Movement control class
- Camera class
- Primitive Draw helper class

Sample code for:

- Font Manager
- Image/HUD manager
- Camera/Input control (FreeLook work with RightMouse Button)

ToDo:

- Skined GUI
- GUI Manager
- Scene loader
- VBO class
- Sprite3D Manager
- Billboard Manager
- Material manager
- Material Event Manager
- Surface Manager
- GLSL
- Shader Manager

Demo v 0.08 with source is possible download from my page http://final3d.intelligentdevelopment.sk

P.S.: I have problem with calc Mouse Delta X/Y, because i used in previous F3D, DXInput this values are returned from DXInput every time. Now i have created little fake for delta x.y with SDLInput, but isn't so good. I looking for a better solution or Your ideas

I waiting comment ...

[technomage]

There is a function call is SDL to get the delta position since the last call.

[pascal]
SDL_GetRelativeMouseState
[/pascal]

Dom - The Input manager needs to be updated to include this, I'll mail you the code. (my cvs still isn't working)

[andygfx]

There is a function call is SDL to get the delta position since the last call.

[pascal]
SDL_GetRelativeMouseState
[/pascal]

Dom - The Input manager needs to be updated to include this, I'll mail you the code. (my cvs still isn't working)

OK. THX. Work cool.

P.S.: I tried download A3D SDL from your CVS, but i can't find any working CVS client unde Vista x64.

[WILL]

Well if you can't download from the CVS thats no problem at all. Dom has setup JEDI-SDL nightly snapshots from the CVS. You can get them at the JEDI-SDL homepage at http://jedi-sdl.pascalgamedevelopment.com/

[andygfx]

1) About SDL_GetRelativeMouseState. If i now control scene on slow PC, work good, but on my C2D 2.6, mouse FreeLook sometimes jump about big delta

2) I have good eues, but link to nightly snapshot i can't find I have instaled this release -> http://jedi-sdl.pascalgamedevelopmen...LFullSetup.exe