Oh and I guess I should mention Supreme Commander from Gas Powered Games. I'm a bit weary of GPG after playing Dungeon Siege 2. :? I loved 1, but it seems like M$ got their claws into them and they started to lean the way of the dark side after that. It was a decent game and all, had a much nicer story development, but in the end gameplay was a tad more streamlined towards whats more traditional in RPG hack-em-ups.