MAC Leopard + Lazarus + Dummy = ?LOST?

[jdarling]

Ok, so at my new company we are all on MAC's (I'm not sure if I'm thrilled or not). IT tells me I can't harm this thing and to have at it. So, I've been trying to figure out how to install Lazarus on it.

Does anyone have a TRUELY for DUMMIES tutorial or walkthrough that tells you how to install Lazarus on Leopard? I need something that starts at the basics (IE: I don't know what FINK is or how to install it, and I have no idea how to get to the command line on this thing).

Thanks from a lost coder,

[JernejL]

*My* personal reaction to a company switching to macs just like that without reasonable causes or compromises would be to go work somewhere else.

Ofcourse you might not be able to do that, so i can only wish you good luck with it.

[noeska]

Do read this: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/O...ogramming_Tips

[jdarling]

*My* personal reaction to a company switching to macs just like that without reasonable causes or compromises would be to go work somewhere else.

Ofcourse you might not be able to do that, so i can only wish you good luck with it.

LOL, this isn't a company switching to MAC. I switched companies and the new one uses MAC. I work in the marketing and advertising business, so almost everyone is MAC and not PC. In fact, the PC pretty much sucks when it comes to true media editing .[code]

Noeska, I did read that one (and many others). In the end a few nice IT people talked me through getting the dev tools installed along with X11. I built the laz IDE with the Carbon interface and now everything is working great. With the exception that I can't figure out how to use things like Lua and SDL as I always get a ]

[technomage]

Do check out

http://www.cerebral-bicycle.co.uk/viewdoc.asp?doc=349

It's a good article on how to use JEDI-SDL with Mac OS X.

[JernejL]

In fact, the PC pretty much sucks when it comes to true media editing .

Wait, are you saying that mac isn't really just a glorified PC?

*ahem*, so yeah, if PC sucks at media editing then macs suck at software development.

[waran]

A Pentium4 in a Mac is soooo much better for media editing than the lousy Pentium4 in a PC.
Ok, maybe there are also people who won't get the irony if I dont put their noses on it :roll:

[savage]

Hi Jeremy,
I had to go through this for the Game Maker port.
The thin you have to decide is if you want to use the latest stable version or an over night snapshot and also if you are using Intel Macs or Power PC macs
The easiest way to get Lazarus installed on Mac OS X is to do the grab some *.dmg files...

For stable :
1. Grab the last stable release from http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...group_id=89339
You are looking the PowerPC/i386 files that start with..

• fpc-2.2.0-[processor]-macosx.dmg
  fpcsrc-2.2.0-[processor]-macosx.dmg
  lazarus-0.9.24-[processor]-macosx.dmg

or

For latest overnight snapshot :
1. Go to http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/
2. Grab the files that look like this...

• fpc-2.2.0-[snapshotdate]-[processor]-macosx.dmg
  fpcsrc-2.2.0-[snapshotdate]-[processor]-macosx.dmg
  lazarus-0.9.25-[snapshotdate]-[processor]-macosx.dmg

The *.dmg files MUST be installed in the order listed above.
*.dmg files are like packages in Linux or in the case of the FPC and Lazarus dmg files, like MSI installers. Note you will need admin/sudo access less to be able to install these dmg files.

The harder way to do it would be to download the source code using SVN and build everything from that, but you need at least the FPC compiler for that.

I hope this helps.

[jdarling]

Hey Savage, thanks for the info. Unfortunately my problem with using the standard DMG distros is that they require GTK/2 to be installed. Since I'm using Leopard FINK isn't available and I can't figure out how to install GTK by hand. Thus I had to go with the Carbon interface. I managed to get SVN installed, checked out the Carbon sources and built Lazarus for Carbon.

Unfortunately, nothing I build runs properly under Carbon . Command line apps all run ok, but the actual carbon apps just sit their doing nothing .

Guess they mean it when they say that Carbon is still in DEEP alpha mode.

To everyone else:
I don't want to start a flame war on architecture here. Yes, I'm running the Duo Core Intel MAC and yes I realize its similar to a PC (meaning Windows and Linux standard distros), but after using all I can say this thing blows the pants off other Linux and Windows distros when it comes to video editing.

Comparing apples to apples (no pun intended) I have similar hardware at home running Windows Vista and the latest Debian distros and I can see where the MAC rips them to pieces.

When it comes to installing and using 3rd party libraries though I can see where windows still wins hands down. Nothing like simply copying a dll into a folder and it works. On the MAC and Linux sides you have to install the .a or .so files and link against them or it won't work properly (damnit).

If anyone knows how to get GTK installed (easily) on Leopard let me know, until then I'm still fiddling with Carbon.

[JernejL]

I don't want to start a flame war on architecture here.

But you just did a few posts ago

Yes, I'm running the Duo Core Intel MAC and yes I realize its similar to a PC (meaning Windows and Linux standard distros)

It IS a pc.

but after using all I can say this thing blows the pants off other Linux and Windows distros when it comes to video editing.

Such as? you made some benchmarks?

Comparing apples to apples (no pun intended) I have similar hardware at home running Windows Vista and the latest Debian distros and I can see where the MAC rips them to pieces.

I thought you didn't want to start a flame war, but you still keep on going and going..