sorry yes, i mis-understood the above post, i understand now thanks

since i've rewrote engine it is farrrrr quicker then before, i've made massive changes to it also, the way virtual forms work, there is now what i call a dragbar, and the plain square control, you can setup colour schemes for everything etc.. now it runs average 2900-3500fps



i will soon upload new test app, i have very many more controls yet to add.....


*edit*

i use for drawing fonts >
F_Font : IID_ID3DXFont;

is this slow? if i print 2 texts it runs around 3000-3500fps, if i remove 1 label, it runs around 4500fps



-MM