That sounds about right. The only reason I mentioned the delphi 8 / delphi 7 angle is that a friend of mine is building a small db app that can be run from a Pocket Pc, and he is using the delphi 7 .net preview compiler. I think right now he is using the 3rd update. Anyway, That is what he is having to do is manage all of the classes himself. He can't use the designer or debugger at all.

-Jeremy